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Post by Eliyahu C. on Oct 24, 2020 6:00:26 GMT -5
Greetings to all, the last forum that I was residing called LO-AMMI DISCUSSION FORUMS has become so corrupt and dishonest that the administrator and his brother ImAHebrew actually asked and wanted me to admit and say a LIE that I had dementia, which I do NOT have, before I could remain on that forum, but according to the administrator Spying, I was banned because (according to him) I taught contrary to Paul's gospel. Spying's quote to me: And I assure you, that I do NOT teach contrary to Paul's taught gospel, but, they in fact do teach contrary to Paul's Gospel, and Paul's own words too, and the very thing that they falsely accuse me of doing, they do it, and that will be proven later on this forum. ImAHebrew/Ken wrote: See and read here: www.lo-ammi.org/forum/main/lo-ammi-forum/1262-the-gifts-of-elohim-s-grace/page39#post64365So I asked Ken this: And I will tell you now, there are NO scriptures, not even ONE, that ever says, " sin is a good thing" or that " we should lust or sin to experience sin either, and such teachings is contrary to the teachings of the scriptures, and no matter how many scriptures these people are shown, they merely ignore them, instead of admitting to their error, repenting, and correcting themselves, they merely keep on ignoring the written word, and promote their own mind's imaginations about the word.
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Post by Guest on Oct 24, 2020 12:47:17 GMT -5
Hi can I post?
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Post by Guest on Oct 24, 2020 12:56:37 GMT -5
Hi everyone
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Post by guyguy on Oct 24, 2020 13:14:40 GMT -5
Hi everyone have a blessed discussion yah bless you all
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 8, 2020 16:27:21 GMT -5
Spying asked this question of me, but he banned me BEFORE I could even answer it, and breaking his own words. Who else lied and broke their word too? Gee I wonder.
The scriptures says that Adam and Eve a creation of Elohim was created "GOOD" in Genesis 1:31, so they were not created in SIN, but Adam and Eve fell and sinned because of the serpent's lie, and I might also note that Lucifer the devil fell also Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, and iniquity was found in him too, he corrupted himself, but the serpent coached Eve into their fall and sin.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 15, 2020 12:24:20 GMT -5
Greetings Serenity+ Grace, then please tell us, why are ye listening to the apostle John who is a man, and how do we know that we abide in HIM-Yah (Jesus) Messiah?
PS: Welcome to the forum.
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Post by guyguy on Nov 15, 2020 12:45:03 GMT -5
Spying wrote this on his forum:I gave lying Spying an answer, it was Eliyah's answer:However, lying Spying removed it along with Eliyah's whole super thread as he called it, and the only thing that I could ask lying Spying, is this, are you a dumb ass?
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 15, 2020 17:52:26 GMT -5
the question asked of Serenity + Grace is, how do we know that we abide in HIM-Yah (Jesus) Messiah? HIM is not Yah, He is Immanuel - God is with us, He is the Saviour - who takes away the Sin of the World, who did not come to Judge but to SAVE HE should never be confused with other gods, as HE is our only example of divinity and NO other,[= according to the advice from Himself] According to Messiah's words, only HE is our true example of DIVINITY and showed forth the Kingdom of HIS father correctly. who put the vowel in Yah ? man YIH YOH YUH YEH YHWH = a code. never a name. So ! when religious men try mismanage the bible characters - we have a corrupted church like we see today Its a deadly deception on a vast scale - a church swamp that needs to a drained too so sit back lads, and ask for the SPIRIT OF TRUTH AND LIFE to really teach you correctly. then EXPECT THE BEST. . Serenity+ Grace, then please tell us the NAME of the Father?
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 16, 2020 13:11:28 GMT -5
The worst problem for all religious men is they remain in the ''Order of Aaron'' the church is an Aaron church so they continue to DIE IN SIN, as they suffer for theie choices of good and evil only the called out FEW - assemble into the church under the new High priest Melchedezek - the endless life order The Holy Spirit of LIFE WILL NEVER direct our life here into the Order of AARON= it died and remains dead. “I am the High and Mighty One. My purposes are being, and will be established on the earth, but I firstly have to establish a Priesthood likened to My servant Melchisedec to serve Me in My Kingdom Day. My Sons have been in the process of being changed into My image. My work in them is almost complete and My Kingdom is about to be birthed. I will not tarry. It is My loving purpose for My creation see and know the glory of My Kingdom. The earth travails in blindness following the rudiments of man and the evil of men’s minds. I will not tarry for this evil must be stopped. The depravity of man is worse than Sodom and My indignation is set alight as a fire that burns and I will not allow the evil of man to continue. You can see with your eyes the evil that lights My indignation. The earth is soon to be invaded with a people great and mighty as a mighty army of those chosen by Me to represent Me as priests of My Kingdom. Nobody will touch My Elect. Like Me they are Spirit and will be untouchable. They will speak Wisdom never heard on this earth since I walked the earth as the Saviour. The church is looking for Me to appear. I cannot as the fallen Adamic soul cannot look on My Glory and live. So look for My appearing in My Faithful Ones for they are My Company. When you see them, you see Me. When you hearken to them you hearken to me. Reject them and you reject Me. The essence of My Kingdom Day will be Peace. I will cover the earth with Peace as My principles replace the evil rudiments of man. Earthly kingdoms and governments are wallowing in evil and confusion and people are living in a wave of fear unleashed from satan himself. I will not tarry as I will not allow this to continue. My Sons will arise from the wilderness bearing My anointing of creative wonders greater than seen in My church day. Do not reject My prophets for they are My chosen. You will know them for they speak a Word from Me which will cause you wonder. It is the Word hidden from the ages yet seen by My prophets of old. All My prophets agree for they hear from Me. My Sons right now are speaking in harmony. They are on separate continents and most have felt the isolation of My dealing but I am bringing them together. It is happening on the earth right now as an act of My purposes. Those who stand in their way I will remove from their way. Those who try to prevent them I will remove from their lives. On those who mock them I will bring troubles. No person will prevent My purposes. Heed My Words saith The Lord for I am The High And Mighty One of Eternity. To all those who seek My face will I reveal great understanding. The days of My people acting as infants are ending. You will be without excuse for I have prophets in the land”. S.G., are ye sure that your name is NOT Lucy Smith? And the TITLE of "Father" is not a NAME, and the devil is also called by the TITLE of "father" too in John 8. However, you first say this: And then you write this: Now why do I suspect that your dishonest with the scriptures? Because you ignore the many other places this NAME YHWH is used with this TITLE in the scriptures, see the list below, and ye did not quote Genesis 14:18-20,22 at all, so I will to show those who read your dishonesty with the scriptures. Genesis 14:18-20,22 And Abram H87 said H559 to the king H4428 of Sodom, H5467 I have lift up H7311 mine hand H3027 unto the LORD, H3068/YHWH the most high H5945 God, H410 the possessor H7069 of heaven H8064 and earth, H776 See and read this in red color: LORD, H3068/YHWH the most high H5945 God, H410And there are 3 witnesses that use this NAME YHWH and the TITLE MOST HIGH in the scriptures, Abraham, the prophet Samuel, and King David. YHWH Most High see here: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=Lord+most+high&t=KJVNow, I would expect that you to acknowledge your ERROR, correct yourself, and be honest with the scriptures.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 17, 2020 11:55:14 GMT -5
the question asked of Serenity + Grace is, how do we know that we abide in HIM-Yah (Jesus) Messiah? HIM is not Yah, He is Immanuel - God is with us, He is the Saviour - who takes away the Sin of the World, who did not come to Judge but to SAVE HE should never be confused with other gods, as HE is our only example of divinity and NO other,[= according to the advice from Himself] According to Messiah's words, only HE is our true example of DIVINITY and showed forth the Kingdom of HIS father correctly. who put the vowel in Yah ? man YIH YOH YUH YEH YHWH = a code. never a name. So ! when religious men try mismanage the bible characters - we have a corrupted church like we see today Its a deadly deception on a vast scale - a church swamp that needs to a drained too so sit back lads, and ask for the SPIRIT OF TRUTH AND LIFE to really teach you correctly. then EXPECT THE BEST. . "Serenity+ Grace", ye did not answer my question. I asked you, how do we KNOW that we abide in Messiah?
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 20, 2020 15:37:03 GMT -5
"Serenity+ Grace", ye did not answer my question. I asked you, how do we KNOW that we abide in Messiah? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- answer under the true DIRECTIVES of the Holy Spirit a Born Again NEW creature becomes a CO HEIR IN CHRIST, here what does this mean? MATURITY WHEN THE SAVIOUR CAN TRUST YOU TO CARRY OUT HIS BUSINESS AND NOT NEED CONTINUAL CORRECTION AS WE [His remnant people] BECOME CO WORKERS TOGETHER with HIM TO EXERCISE JUDGEMENT AND AUTHORITY knowing at all times we can possess His overall wisdom in all situations here, just as Jesus did and knew. Serenity + Grace, Ye are partly correct regarding His Holy Spirit, but there are specific things that Yah Messiah said regarding His disciples that we must do, and here are some N.T. scriptures of this. Messiah said:Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:31-32. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&t=KJV#31Again Messiah says: Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. John 15:1-7. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=15&t=KJV#7And the verse ye quoted in 1 John 2:27 John also says this: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 1 John 2:3-5. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#topSo a person who really has His Holy Spirit will allow both His written and spoken words the scriptures to abide in them, and without it fruit is not produced, and His Holy Spirit will not contradict His already spoken and written words, and it will be His spoken and written words along with our words that will judge us in the end, and Messiah Himself says so on this matter.
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Post by Serenity+grace on Nov 20, 2020 19:41:41 GMT -5
The holy spirit is the true saints Teacher as declared Let No man teach you is the NT warning as man perverts the written word proved by the thousands of church divisions and with their sect teachings that differ in so many ways Any person can quote any scripture to prove their point of view and still remain outside the Kingdom of Heaven reality I i did read a stat that during Jesus ministry He could have uttered two million words however we find approx two thousand recorded Hence the true need for a divine intervention and truthful teaching Why each saint has their own personal trail and faith walk and needs a very personal teacher to direct them into the true justice of His Kingdom value
Also We find out from true study outside the church indoctrination and its evil fruits that the NT is mere copies and No original words even exist
Perhaps it has become a case of the chinese whispers hence the fact all the church people still die In their sin
Few are called or chosen to ascend into the New creational order of Melchedezek and live here under the New high Priest Jesu himself So all church peoplr remain dead in sin and captive to the old aaron deadly priesthood
To worship at the feet of gods that belong to the captivity under Aaron is a fools folly
Ask the Holy Spirit to be your teach amd remove yourself from captivity as the best advice Jesus can give
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Post by Serenity+grace on Nov 20, 2020 19:42:14 GMT -5
The holy spirit is the true saints Teacher as declared Let No man teach you is the NT warning as man perverts the written word proved by the thousands of church divisions and with their sect teachings that differ in so many ways Any person can quote any scripture to prove their point of view and still remain outside the Kingdom of Heaven reality I i did read a stat that during Jesus ministry He could have uttered two million words however we find approx two thousand recorded Hence the true need for a divine intervention and truthful teaching Why each saint has their own personal trail and faith walk and needs a very personal teacher to direct them into the true justice of His Kingdom value
Also We find out from true study outside the church indoctrination and its evil fruits that the NT is mere copies and No original words even exist
Perhaps it has become a case of the chinese whispers hence the fact all the church people still die In their sin
Few are called or chosen to ascend into the New creational order of Melchedezek and live here under the New high Priest Jesu himself So all church peoplr remain dead in sin and captive to the old aaron deadly priesthood
To worship at the feet of gods that belong to the captivity under Aaron is a fools folly
Ask the Holy Spirit to be your teach amd remove yourself from captivity as the best advice Jesus can give
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Post by guyguy on Nov 21, 2020 8:16:28 GMT -5
No: the real reason there are divisional churches, is because men and women twist or wrest the scriptures into their own ideas or traditions, instead of simply reading and obeying it as is written.
This is one of the most oximoron statements you could write; because those who are born again have REPENTED of, and been forgiven of their past sins according to the scripture of truth, and those who ignore and disobey the scripture of truth are not true believers.
And let me ask you; have you ever sinned?
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Post by guyguy on Nov 22, 2020 9:33:04 GMT -5
Those who are really abiding in the True Teacher Christ will not totally ignore His apostles teachings as you've done. You've invented your own definition of what sin really is; and you've ignored the apostle John's own written definition of SIN.
And like you've admitted on lo-ammi forum; those like you cannot obey God's divine laws that defines righteousness, so your post above is really speaking of yourself.
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Post by guyguy on Nov 22, 2020 11:05:55 GMT -5
The True Teacher Christ does not tell His followers to ignore and disobey His apostle's written words who were filled with His Holy Spirit; you pretend to obey John in one verse, and while disobeying another verse.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 12:00:47 GMT -5
Guyguy, All of this reminds me of these two verses below. Yah Messiah said: He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. Luke 16:10. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=16&t=KJV#10Those who can't be faithful in keeping the least of the word, can't be faithful in any of it. But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word (of God), keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Luke 8:15. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Luk&c=8&t=KJV#15Those with an honest and good heart, having heard the word of Elohim, keeps it, and brings forth fruit with patience, and it's impossible to produce fruit without obeying and doing the word of Yah.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 12:29:28 GMT -5
Ye are partly correct regarding His Holy Spirit, but there are specific things that Yah Messiah said regarding His disciples that we must do, and here are some N.T. scriptures of this. Messiah said:Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:31-32. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=8&t=KJV#31Again Messiah says: Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you. John 15:1-7. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=15&t=KJV#7And the verse ye quoted in 1 John 2:27 John also says this: And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. 1 John 2:3-5. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=2&v=1&t=KJV#topSo a person who really has His Holy Spirit will allow both His written and spoken words the scriptures to abide in them, and without it fruit is not produced, and His Holy Spirit will not contradict His already spoken and written words, and it will be His spoken and written words along with our words that will judge us in the end, and Messiah Himself says so on this matter. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yah Messiah's own requirements for receiving His Holy Spirit. If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. John 14:15-23. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&t=KJV#15Those who do NOT keep the commandments of Elohim and His words do not love Him, and cannot and will not receive His Holy Spirit, the Comforter.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 12:52:15 GMT -5
The holy spirit teaches His True saints the finer details of the Kingdom and how the ChAnge over from death and captivity under the law of Moses to life in the Spirit happens this comes from the New birth as the incorruptible seed replaces the corrupt seed with all men the New man is now formed to grow into the image of christ The incorruptible seeded person no longer needs the law of moses that was declared weak and useless unable to save any person any more The New wine in His new Creature sets His people free from that law of sin and death People perish from lack of knowledge They die from A Famine of truth They have never been made incorruptible by the teaching of the spirit of Lifr So they remain victims and captives to the law of death Lucy, I'm going to ask you to post us a scripture that says: "The law of Moses was the law of death and captivity.", and if ye do not, then this post will be removed as personal misinformation.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 13:09:17 GMT -5
Romans 8 v 2 No My title is serenity + Grace not “””lucy”” Dont confuse S.G. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.Romans 8:2Sorry, but the 3 words "law of Moses" is not in Romans 8:2. Verification here: www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=8&v=1&t=KJV#topAnd if your not Lucy Smith from lo-ammi- your mo is the same, and why have you not registered above?
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 13:18:56 GMT -5
If you can't be honest with who ye are, ye sure won't be honest with the scriptures either.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 13:29:26 GMT -5
1 am honest with name and scriptures Romans 8 v 2 is exposing the law of sin and death for without the law there is no sin The truth is hated by tares SG, your a liar as a tare, because the 3 words law of Moses is NOT in Romans 8:2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=8&v=1&t=KJV#topAnd I asked, why have you not registered?
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 13:41:07 GMT -5
The holy spirit pupils are all on the same page with unity victory faith and truth None are divisional like the churches. A quick search Looking at this Lo Ammi forum i see Lucy-smith was banned Yea and so was I, but the forum administrator did not want to be honest with the scriptures: And so will you be banned from here, if you don't want to cooperate and be honest with the scriptures, and stop inserting your own word ideas into them.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 14:10:38 GMT -5
1 am honest with name and scriptures Romans 8 v 2 is exposing the law of sin and death for without the law there is no sin The truth is hated by tares SG, your a liar as a tare, because the 3 words law of Moses is NOT in Romans 8:2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=8&v=1&t=KJV#topAnd I asked, why have you not registered? SG,Lucy, Romans 8:2 is not talking about the "law of Moses" it's talking about a natural law of death, like jumping from a skyscraper will bring you death, or any other detriment to human beings, death is certain, the same as life is certain, and don't try to kid me about who you really are, you come on here speaking evil of the name YAH, and now your speaking evil about the law, and next you will be speaking evil about the apostle Paul and mudslinging. Yea, the tares hate the name of YAH All Mighty, they hate the truth of the scriptures, they're also dishonest with the scriptures, and cannot and will not admit to a simple error either.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 14:29:29 GMT -5
SG, your a liar as a tare, because the 3 words law of Moses is NOT in Romans 8:2. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rom&c=8&v=1&t=KJV#topAnd I asked, why have you not registered? SG,Lucy, Romans 8:2 is not talking about the "law of Moses" it's talking about a natural law of death, like jumping from a skyscraper will bring you death, or any other detriment to human beings, death is certain, the same as life is certain, and don't try to kid me about who you really are, you come on here speaking evil of the name YAH, and now your speaking evil about the law, and next you will be speaking evil about the apostle Paul and mudslinging. Yea, the tares hate the name of YAH All Mighty, they hate the truth of the scriptures, they're also dishonest with the scriptures, and cannot and will not admit to a simple error either. Yea, that's about all those like Ken can do when they get caught with their pants down, to use his words, he got caught being dishonest with the scriptures, and did not want to admit his own simple mistake. I can't help but laugh.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 15:18:39 GMT -5
1 am honest with name and scriptures Romans 8 v 2 is exposing the law of sin and death for without the law there is no sin The truth is hated by tares And S.G. no, your misunderstanding this verse, so then ye must think that if ye do away with the law, then your doing away with sin too? No, because there is SIN in this world, so there still a law being broken, because the apostle Paul says this. For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Romans 5:13. www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=For+until+the+law+sin+was+in+the+world%3A+but+sin+is+not+imputed+when+there+is+no+law%2E&t=KJVAnd so when sin is still here, and it surely is, then so is the law to define sin, so transgressing the law of Elohim is sin 1 John 3:4, and the wages of sin or transgressing the law of Elohim will bring death, for the wages of sin/or transgressing the law is death, and NOT the law itself. www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=the+wages+of+sin&t=KJVwww.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=1Jo&c=3&t=KJV#4When Yah Messiah returns, all of His laws will be enforced upon penalty of death, so ye better get used to obeying now, or ye won't be there.
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Post by guyguy on Nov 22, 2020 15:58:44 GMT -5
Hey Eliyah: I thought that I might add this; you are correct, because Paul distinguishes the difference from The Law Of God and the law of sin and death.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 16:21:17 GMT -5
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 18:07:01 GMT -5
well under the direction of the true teacher we find a vastly different version of the True gospel than what is offered by the other posters yes the wheat and the tares do grow side by side, so the BIG PICTURE shows His people the truth and knocks the socks of the tares First, the Bible teaches plainly that a Christian is not under the Law of Moses. The Law was given to Israel as part of a covenant extended only to Israel. While all men are transgressors of the perfect and holy Law of God, only one group of people on earth were ever commanded by God to live according to that Law. (See our Exodus study for a complete teaching on this principle). Secondly, the Bible teaches that no man can meet the test of the Law, whether Jew or Gentile. Every man has broken the Law, and as James says, if we break even one Law, we are guilty of the whole Law. In fact, the Bible says in Romans that the purpose of the Law was simply to reveal our sin; it was not intended to remedy sin or give us a recipe for reducing sin. So even when a Christian (mistakenly) believes he should keep the Law or even just the Ten Commandments, he is still utterly failing at keeping the Law, and his failure only serves to reinforce the principle that the only purpose of the Law is to reveal our sin. Thirdly, James quotes from the Ten Commandments to mock those who try to follow the Law. He isn’t reinforcing the value of follow the Law; he’s illustrating the senselessness of following the Law piecemeal, trying to keep one law while simultaneously violating another. Notice James’ tone of sarcasm and rebuke: James 2:9 But if you show partiality, you are committing sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. James 2:10 For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. James 2:11 For He who said, “ DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY,” also said, “ DO NOT COMMIT MURDER.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but do commit murder, you have become a transgressor of the law. James 2:12 So speak and so act as those who are to be judged by the law of liberty. Notice James demonstrates the futility of keeping the Law partially. He calls obeying one of the commandments while violating another commandment “partiality.” In other words, keeping some of the Law is useless and foolishness, for it accomplishes nothing. When Christians endeavor to keep the Law, they are merely serving their own egos and fleshly pride, taking satisfaction in trying sanctify themselves by their own works, which is not possible. The Bible says that we are sanctified by the work of the Spirit in our heart as we walk in faith, not by following laws written on stone. In v.12 James says that rather than trying to follow the Law of Moses, we should instead act as those to be judged according to the Law of Liberty. He isn’t saying that following the Ten Commandments is the same as following the Law of Liberty. That conclusion is a poor interpretation of scripture. The word “so” at the beginning of v.12 means “instead” in the original Greek, so the two laws are being set in opposition in the original Greek language. Therefore, James is teaching that instead of following the Law of Moses, the Christian follows the Law of Liberty. The Law of Moses and the Law of Liberty are entirely different things. One is written on stone and given to Israel; the other is written on the hearts of those in the New Covenant. One is a ministry of death; the other a ministry of life (according to Paul). One has power only to condemn; the other brings power to please God. (Once again, we offer an extended discussion on the differences in our Exodus study.) Some churches that practice legalism will teach that certain works of the Jewish Law (like keeping a Sabbath) are requirements for Christians, but this is not the Bible’s teaching. Legalism places unnecessary burdens on believers. Consider the harsh rebuke Paul offered to those who would teach that Christians must follow the Law: Gal. 2:18 “For if I rebuild what I have once destroyed, I prove myself to be a transgressor. Gal. 2:19 “For through the Law I died to the Law, so that I might live to God. Gal. 2:20 “I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. Gal. 2:21 “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness comes through the Law, then Christ died needlessly.” Gal. 3:1 You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? Gal. 3:2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Gal. 3:3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh? Paul says if we attempt to rebuild what was destroyed by Christ’s death (referring to re-establishing the Law of Moses), we only prove ourselves to be transgressors of that Law. It’s only purpose was to expose sin, NOT to make someone more holy or righteous. We die to the Law when we accept Christ, Paul says (see Romans 7). He calls such people foolish. Paul was speaking 2,000 years ago, but he might as well have been writing these words to those in your church or any church who teach this same error. We strongly recommend you listen to our Galatians and Romans studies for in-depth, accurate exposition of the Bible’s teaching on the relationship between faith and the Law. Serenity + Grace, really? Then why did Paul say that he served the law of God with his mind? I can't help but laugh. PS: I've asked you to register, if you do not, you will be banned for a few days.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Nov 22, 2020 18:30:19 GMT -5
not to worry i dislike religious dementia victims from a brief reading I see the religious tares here are as bad as on Lo ammi's foul forum with all its perversions in the natural and spiritual the posters there are basically evil with 1 exception. I can now see why Lucy smith was banned by the bible perverters goodbye your tomb awaits Yea right Lucy, the only one trying to pervert the Bible is you, and as usual, all ye want to do is mudsling, you are not willing to be truthful and honest with the scriptures, nor correcting yourself, so, so long.
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