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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 17, 2021 12:49:24 GMT -5
Yea, if I remember reading correctly, Lucy Smith used this term and calling the scriptures by her dumb term. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit in my opinion. Yes Ron, Lucy did call the scriptures dung of man, but the scriptures are not, it is her and Rudyfer's own words and ideas about the scriptures that really are.
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Post by Ron on Apr 17, 2021 13:03:54 GMT -5
wronG again the truth is THE LIFE the truth is to be free the truth is goodnews for mankind' The Jews already KNEW of the LAST TRUMP = see Martha responds to the Saviour [John 11 v 24 25 26] and Paul was recycling this '' 'stale news'' because he NEVER HEARD the goodnews from sitting with Jesus but Jesus TOLD MARTHA a new revelation = HE IS OUR LIFE NOW - HE NOW IS OUR RESURRECTION HERE - THATS THE GOOD NEWS he sacrificed his life rather than read the bible you need to '''study the FINE DETAILS''''' and not view these details with churchy corrupted eyes and viewpoint Wrong Rudy S. because Jesus told this to Martha in John 11:25: Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believes in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:Christ says that a believer in Him can die, and though that believer does die, that believer shall live again through a resurrection by Him from the dead. This one verse by Jesus Himself destroys your whole concept about a believer not being able to die.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 17, 2021 13:29:42 GMT -5
Rudy-Lucy, it looks as if Ron has now caught you and disproven ye with Messiah's own words.
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Post by Rudy S on Apr 17, 2021 16:04:52 GMT -5
the name is Rudy S please get it right it is a simple thing to understand ok
and NO the words of Martha is right - the jews all knew of the last day resurrrection = same as Paul did = stale manna Jesus corrected Martha with new information
''thou he were dead'' = the jews under the law were the dead according to the Saviour = they had No life and all died in the wilderness except 2 who later died they all were ''the dead who bury the dead'' according to Jesus as none received eternal life nor salvation of a born again experience
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 17, 2021 16:13:38 GMT -5
the name is Rudy S please get it right it is a simple thing to understand ok and NO the words of Martha is right - the jews all knew of the last day resurrrection = same as Paul did = stale manna Jesus corrected Martha with new information ''thou he were dead'' = the jews under the law were the dead according to the Saviour = they had No life and all died in the wilderness except 2 who later died they all were ''the dead who bury the dead'' according to Jesus as none received eternal life nor salvation of a born again experience Rudy, Yah Messiah is talking about a literal death and resurrection in John 11, and He is not talking about being spiritual dead as the Pharisees were, and ye don't know when Messiah is speaking literally or spiritually.
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Post by Rudy S on Apr 17, 2021 17:53:22 GMT -5
well believe as you will - that form of goodnews is not that great really
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 18, 2021 8:23:13 GMT -5
well believe as you will - that form of goodnews is not that great really Well Rudy, I don't really care if you believe it or not, because ye will not believe any of the others scriptures given to ye, and if ye do not, then it's really ye that are the dead burying the dead as Yah Messiah said.
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Post by Rudy S on Apr 18, 2021 15:37:27 GMT -5
the real problem here is you only have a book as your god and NOT the loving fellowship with Jesus the book has become your god and idol heaps off religious people are as you the Fellowship as a friend with Jesus us vastly superior to book reading The book was ever only a guide a type of road map that is why we all need Holy discernment to discover truth from its fiction I guess the book has become your crutch rather then the living friend and high priest as the scriptures declared it has lying scribes within it - how do you tell the lies from the truth
why do you continually mix the law of Moses with the Goodnews when the 2 oppose each other and have different covenants
see you cannot discern the dying priesthood and the living priesthood you are at 6s and 7s in your apostacy as i continually point out the gospel is for the living not for those dead under the Law
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 18, 2021 15:46:49 GMT -5
the real problem here is you only have a book as your god and NOT the loving fellowship with Jesus the book has become your god and idol heaps off religious people are as you the Fellowship as a friend with Jesus us vastly superior to book reading The book was ever only a guide a type of road map that is why we all need Holy discernment to discover truth from its fiction I guess the book has become your crutch rather then the living friend and high priest as the scriptures declared it has lying scribes within it - how do you tell the lies from the truth why do you continually mix the law of Moses with the Goodnews when the 2 oppose each other and have different covenants see you cannot discern the dying priesthood and the living priesthood you are at 6s and 7s in your apostacy as i continually point out the gospel is for the living not for those dead under the Law No Rudy, I don't make the scriptures my "god" nor "idol" and this statement is the same that Lucy made also on LO-AMMI forum, and those who don't live by Elohim's divine laws and His Word the scriptures, well, then they live as the rest of the world and are of the devil as the apostle John wrote in 1 John 3:4-10. The sad fact is Rudy-Lucy ye worship the devil and practice his disobedience.
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Post by Ron on Apr 18, 2021 15:58:40 GMT -5
Rudy: There are no lies in it Rudy; and it's the devil hairy tares of unbelievers that think so. So why do you keep coming back here following us around and knowing that your lies and unbeliefs won't be accepted here. As Eliyah has already told you; it's time for you to move on don't you think.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 18, 2021 16:04:50 GMT -5
Hey Ron, have you ever seen me advocate the sacrificial system of the law of Moses on this forum, ever?
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Post by Ron on Apr 18, 2021 16:08:17 GMT -5
No Eliyah I have not read it if you have.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 18, 2021 16:12:19 GMT -5
Well Ron, that's because I have not, and the sacrificial law of Moses is no longer requires, but this being said does not deter Rudy from false accusing me of it as he did above.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 18, 2021 16:23:41 GMT -5
Yea Ron, the Lucy-Rudy idiots followed me around on every thread that I created on LO-AMMI forum and falsely accused me con-tinuously, and the dictater of that forum would do nothing about such things, he allowed Lucy's corrupt language and insults, and they are not going to be welcomed here for such things.
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Post by Ron on Apr 18, 2021 16:32:13 GMT -5
Eliyah: These people do not believe nor will they accept the scriptures; and they will not cooperate nor honestly answer a question asked of them, and yet they will come here and pretend to be believers and followers of Christ without believing and obeying His Word.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 19, 2021 9:24:09 GMT -5
In my opinion: Rudy is here to advocate this scripture against the redeemed in Revelation 12:17. 'And the dragon was angry with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.'
Isaiah 8:16, 20: 'Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples...To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.'
If there is no law and the testimony; then there would be no need of the Savior Christ Jesus to save from its penalty which is death, and therefore there is also no need of the good news to be preached.
Little Billy Boy.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 19, 2021 13:04:35 GMT -5
In my opinion: Rudy is here to advocate this scripture against the redeemed in Revelation 12:17. 'And the dragon was angry with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.' Isaiah 8:16, 20: 'Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples...To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.' If there is no law and the testimony; then there would be no need of the Savior Christ Jesus to save from its penalty which is death, and therefore there is also no need of the good news to be preached. Little Billy Boy. Billy Boy, Yes, to that I agree, poor Rudy simply cannot understand that many people have not repented and been led to Messiah yet, and that as Paul wrote, Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. Romans 3:24. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gal&c=3&t=KJV#23The apostle Paul sure did mix the law with the good news or gospel, because he wrote about both, and he says that they are not against each other either. See here: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=law+against&t=KJVAnd here: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=under+the+law&t=KJV
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 19, 2021 13:16:08 GMT -5
Eliyah: Since Rudy S has lost his argument about his imperishable flesh; he now wants to argue about the law and the gospel, but he should first go look up all the texts on this subject before diving into it like diving into a pond not knowing how deep it is.
Little Billy Boy.
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Post by Bill on Apr 20, 2021 5:44:03 GMT -5
Rudy and Lucy you have been given ample warnings on this forum; your lies and slander of other posters here are not going to be tolerated as it was on lo-ammi forum, as this is not that forum, and from here going forward, all of your posts will be removed and your isps will be terminated.
Bill: Moderator.
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Post by Ron on Apr 20, 2021 6:05:40 GMT -5
Rudy and Lucy you have been given ample warnings on this forum; your lies and slander of other posters here are not going to be tolerated as it was on lo-ammi forum, as this is not that forum, and from here going forward, all of your posts will be removed and your isps will be terminated. Bill: Moderator. G.M. Bill: You would think that these people would finally get the message, but it looks as if the devil's hairy tares are here to falsely accuse which is the same fruitless tactic as their 'father' who is the accuser of the brethren as John wrote and told us.
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Post by Bill on Apr 20, 2021 6:28:40 GMT -5
Ron if people despise correction by the truth of the scriptures and are unwilling to correct themselves accordingly and obey it the scripture itself calls them fools, and one or two rotten apples will finally rotten the whole barrel of apples, or as Paul wrote that a little leaven then leavens the whole lump of doe.
Bill: Moderator.
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Post by Ron on Apr 20, 2021 7:13:45 GMT -5
Yeah: Lucy is calling the 'GOD' who wrote the Bible the devil; talk about blasphemy, and she says 'a book full of corrupt. dung almost of each page' and this is Rudy's wife for all to read the words from her own mouth.
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Post by Bill on Apr 20, 2021 7:44:59 GMT -5
Ron these words above by Lucy Smith reminds me of Messiah words.
Bill.
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Post by Ron on Apr 20, 2021 7:58:46 GMT -5
True, true: Paul wrote in 1 Corinthians 15:33:Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.
If anyone has good manners, others who speak evil communications will corrupt your good manners.
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Post by Ron on Apr 20, 2021 8:31:27 GMT -5
You know: If anyone really thinks about these words by Christ they should be terrified by its implications and slow to speak; to know that every word that people speak are being recorded down in heaven on every person, and they will give an account of their words at the Great Throne Judgment spoken of in Revelation 20-12.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 24, 2021 10:34:41 GMT -5
Greetings folks, Yes it should terrify sinners and unbelievers, however, Paul wrote this below about believers in Yah Messiah. But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. Romans 14:10. And For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his/her body, according to that he/she hath done, whether it be good or bad. 2 Corinthians 5:10. See and read the scriptures here: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=judgment+seat+of+Christ&t=KJVBe fore warned.
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Post by Bill on Apr 25, 2021 5:08:30 GMT -5
Rudy and Lucy you have been given ample warnings on this forum; your lies and slander of other posters here are not going to be tolerated as it was on lo-ammi forum, as this is not that forum, and from here going forward, all of your posts will be removed and your isps will be terminated. Bill: Moderator. Rudy and Lucy you were warned to stay off this forum above; and all of your posts have been removed, and you are posting them in vain or for nothing, because your posts will be removed as soon as they are spotted. Bill Moderator.
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Post by Bill on Apr 25, 2021 6:32:04 GMT -5
Rudy: Evidently your own false Christ that you have made up for yourself supposedly will not judge others, but he will allow you to judge everyone else except yourself of course, and maybe you need to look at every place where Messiah spoke about to judge. Judge: www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2919&t=KJVBill Moderator.
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Post by Ron on Apr 25, 2021 7:09:03 GMT -5
Rudy: Evidently your own false Christ that you have made up for yourself supposedly will not judge others, but he will allow you to judge everyone else except yourself of course, and maybe you need to look at every place where Messiah spoke about to judge. Judge: www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=G2919&t=KJVBill Moderator. G.M. Bill: Yea Christ said in John 5:22, 30: For the Father judges no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:...I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.Again Christ said in John 7:24: Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.Psalms 119:172 tells us what righteous judgment is: 'My tongue shall speak of thy word: for all thy commandments are righteousness.'
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Post by Bill on Apr 25, 2021 7:53:47 GMT -5
Ron: Messiah also said this too He that rejects me, and receives not my words, hath one that judges him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. John 12:48
Those who rejects His words the scriptures, because they are His spoken words, also rejects Him too; and it will be His words the scriptures that shall judge them in the last day. There is that term 'the last day' again, but Lucy and Rudy does not believe the scriptures. They run all over the internet listening to every wind of doctrine from unbelievers.
Bill: Moderator.
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