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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 2, 2021 9:12:11 GMT -5
All of you were warned to NOT speak evil of Yah Messiah of the Holy Scriptures, and none of you can keep your word, and now all of ye will have to register and abide by the rules if you want to post.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 4, 2021 16:32:43 GMT -5
Lucy,
I'm gonna give you a chance here, and if your bunch of people do not abide by the rules, then I'm going to start banning ISP numbers permanently.
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Post by Lucysmith on Jan 5, 2021 16:20:49 GMT -5
A time of divine reflection NO ADMIN not coming back
Why not In the Fathers temple He alone places the living stones their rightfull position None of those living stones hate despise war or treat the other stones badly
Why not each living stone sees the whole building from the section they are slotted into from a different angle Meaning The living temple is like a rainbow of divine perspectives yet stone undivided and perfect How do we know We are told in a divine fellowship One is given a song A prayer A teaching A revelation That no one had heard before Why For edification and to allow the divine kingdom to come to earth today
It is never stale manna Never 2000yr old bread
The living temple never lives on stale bread but daily FRESH bread “”Today If You Hear My Voice””
The living stones (Likened to Jesus eternal life ) cannot mix with the dead stones (like the Pharisee ) whom Jesus said were””the dead who bury the dead””
The dead will never see from the perspectives of The divine Living Should bible readers and all religious people think they are “”the living “” remember The flies smell rotting flesh and land upon it
Waving a sad Good by
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 5, 2021 17:49:06 GMT -5
Lucy,
That's entirely up to you, but ye are already dead, because ye do not believe Yah Messiah's words the scriptures, nor accept His Deity as being the Elohim of the scriptures as He said so Himself.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 5, 2021 18:28:17 GMT -5
Lucy, That's entirely up to you, but ye are already dead, because ye do not believe Yah Messiah's words the scriptures, nor accept His Deity as being the Elohim of the scriptures as He said so Himself. The apostle Peter wrote. To him/Yah Messiah give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Acts 10:43. www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=To+him+give+all+the+prophets+witness&t=KJVPeter says that ALL of the prophets in the scriptures bears witness to Messiah. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.John 5:39-40. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=5&t=KJV#39Yah Messiah also says that THEY testify of Him too, so I will not allow fake believers to speak evil of Yah Messiah the Elohim of the scriptures on this forum.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 9, 2021 13:15:58 GMT -5
Lucy, That's entirely up to you, but ye are already dead, because ye do not believe Yah Messiah's words the scriptures, nor accept His Deity as being the Elohim of the scriptures as He said so Himself. The apostle Peter wrote. To him/Yah Messiah give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. Acts 10:43. www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=To+him+give+all+the+prophets+witness&t=KJVPeter says that ALL of the prophets in the scriptures bears witness to Messiah. Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.John 5:39-40. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=5&t=KJV#39Yah Messiah also says that THEY-THE PROPHETS testify of Him too, so I will not allow fake believers to speak evil of Yah Messiah the Elohim of the scriptures on this forum.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 9, 2021 13:17:46 GMT -5
Lucy,
I don't mind you posting if you don't speak evil of Messiah, the Deity of the scriptures.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Jan 12, 2021 10:47:27 GMT -5
A time of divine reflection NO ADMIN not coming back Why not In the Fathers temple He alone places the living stones their rightfull position None of those living stones hate despise war or treat the other stones badly Why not each living stone sees the whole building from the section they are slotted into from a different angle Meaning The living temple is like a rainbow of divine perspectives yet stone undivided and perfect How do we know We are told in a divine fellowship One is given a song A prayer A teaching A revelation That no one had heard before Why For edification and to allow the divine kingdom to come to earth today It is never stale manna Never 2000yr old bread The living temple never lives on stale bread but daily FRESH bread “”Today If You Hear My Voice”” The living stones (Likened to Jesus eternal life ) cannot mix with the dead stones (like the Pharisee ) whom Jesus said were””the dead who bury the dead”” The dead will never see from the perspectives of The divine Living Should bible readers and all religious people think they are “”the living “” remember The flies smell rotting flesh and land upon it Waving a sad Good by Lucy, it's time for correction which ye seem to reject. Who has treated you people badly? And should any of the living stones speak evil of Yah Messiah Who is The Chief Corner Stone? See here below: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=corner+stone&t=KJVI'm not against a prayer, song, teaching, or revelation, but when these things contradict the already Spirit written word of the scriptures, see 2 Corinthians 3:3, and which also determines doctrine 2 Timothy 3:16, then a person must correct themselves and move on. 2 Corinthians 3:3: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=written+with+the+spirit&t=KJV2 Timothy 3:16: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=doctrine&t=KJVI assume that ye are speaking about the written scriptures as being stale bread, and please show me a scripture calling the Word Of Yah stale bread? For the word of God is quick/ALIVE, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12; See also above of 2 Corinthians 3:3, and Yah Messiah is BOTH the written Word and the living Word. www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?strongs=G2198&t=KJV&page=4And ye leaving only shows everyone that ye are NOT willing to accept correction by the Spirit written word of Messiah.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 6:08:12 GMT -5
Old Testament: Gen:32:30: And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for *I have seen God face to face*, and my life is preserved. Num:14:14: And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they have heard that thou LORD art among this people, that *thou LORD art seen face to face*, New Testament: Jn:1:18: No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 1Jn:4:12: No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Jn:5:37: And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape Rudy: I guess this is one of your seeming contradictions that you're always talking about, but there is no contradiction here. Question: How can we make these texts of scriptures harmonize with each other? Christ is speaking about GOD THE FATHER in the books of John that you quoted above; and Christ also said this about GOD THE FATHER: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:23-24 No man can see GOD THE FATHER because HE is pure HOLY SPIRIT; and if Jacob did not see GOD THE FATHER, then whom did Abraham and Jacob see in the old testament? Christ gives us that answer too in John 5:39 which if you would have read a little further you would have known: Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.Christ is the Messenger/Angel or Mediator of both the old testament and the new testament and it was HIM they saw and spoke to in the old testament; and as Christ said to Philip in John 14:9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?Little Billy Boy.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 10:46:16 GMT -5
The above explanation failed to live up to the Simplicity of christ No one needs to be a rocket scientist to understand His words but to be as a little child Read the words - they give a clean and clear meaning Rudy: You can't even understand the words of Christ let alone believe and accept them.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 10:57:09 GMT -5
Old Testament: Gen:32:30: And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for *I have seen God face to face*, and my life is preserved. Num:14:14: And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they have heard that thou LORD art among this people, that *thou LORD art seen face to face*, New Testament: Jn:1:18: No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. 1Jn:4:12: No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us. Jn:5:37: And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape Rudy: I guess this is one of your seeming contradictions that you're always talking about, but there is no contradiction here. Question: How can we make these texts of scriptures harmonize with each other? Christ is speaking about GOD THE FATHER in the books of John that you quoted above; and Christ also said this about GOD THE FATHER: But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:23-24 No man can see GOD THE FATHER because HE is pure HOLY SPIRIT; and if Jacob did not see GOD THE FATHER, then whom did Abraham and Jacob see in the old testament? Christ gives us that answer too in John 5:39 which if you would have read a little further you would have known: Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.Christ is the Messenger/Angel or Mediator of both the old testament and the new testament and it was HIM they saw and spoke to in the old testament; and as Christ said to Philip in John 14:9: Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?Little Billy Boy. Yea Billy Boy, these are not the only texts telling us that Messiah was the LORD YAH the ancients of old saw in the old testament. The apostle Paul tells us in the book of Hebrews. By faith Moses, when he was come to years, refused to be called the son of Pharaoh's daughter;...Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. Hebrews 11:24-26. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Heb&c=11&t=KJV#26Well, well, will ye look at that, Moses esteemed the reproach of Christ or Messiah as greater riches. What? Moses saw and spoke to Messiah? Yes indeed!
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 13:36:18 GMT -5
Jesus is one being The Word The Yahweh gods are plural - more than one a group. A set of gods How did Jesus become a Plural group of gods in the O T and why did The Word of God change the law of Moses 6 Times ( as recorded) if He wrote it or ordered it Rudy: Jesus pre-existed as Yah the Son, the Word of Yah, John 1:1-14, and He is also God as John wrote, and He is ONE with the Father YAH; and you will read this in Genesis 19:24: Then the LORD-YHWH (on earth) rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD-YHWH out of heaven;The Yah on earth talking to Abraham was Christ who rained fire and brimstone from the YAH in heaven down on Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 13:39:12 GMT -5
Jesus did not say that He was changing the law, and these are your words not Christs'.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 13:43:47 GMT -5
Rudy: Christ also said in John 8:56: Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
How else would Christ know that about Abraham if He was not there?
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 13:47:23 GMT -5
Rudy: Christ also said in John 8:56: Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.How else would Christ know that about Abraham if He was not there? Billy Boy, that is a very good point, I won't forget that one, a big thumbs up my friend.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 13:58:50 GMT -5
Billy Boy, you've been holding out on me ain't ye? Ye know the scriptures more than we thought.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 14:01:22 GMT -5
Ah Eliyah: I haven't said much until now; and I don't like to flaunt.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 14:43:29 GMT -5
Wasnt Abraham before Moses law? And wasnt the Law Given to moses by Angels an in PLURAL Rudy: If you do a word study on the words 'angel and messenger' they mean the same; it is the Hebrew word number H 4397 in the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, please see here: www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H4397&t=KJV Christ is and was the Angel or Messenger of YAH THE FATHER, or the Angel of His Presence that acted on His behalf.
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Post by Rudy S on Apr 10, 2021 15:17:50 GMT -5
Wasnt Abraham before Moses law? And wasnt the Law Given to moses by Angels an in PLURAL Rudy: If you do a word study on the words 'angel and messenger' they mean the same; it is the Hebrew word number H 4397 in the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, please see here: www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H4397&t=KJV Christ is and was the Angel or Messenger of YAH THE FATHER, or the Angel of His Presence that acted on His behalf. ========================================================== Let’s say I want to learn more about the words angel (Strongs #G32). Look in the back, and it says: capture aggelos So, it can mean a messenger, or an angel, or perhaps (Strong is thinking of its use in Rev 2-3) perhaps it refers to the pastor of a church. However, Strong is not telling you what the word means in Matthew 1:21. Rather, he is merely telling you (the material after the —) that “This is how the KJV translated angelos in the New Testament, as angel or as messenger.” The “right answer” in Matthew 1:21 is the special use of the word to mean a spirit messenger of the Lord, an angel. However, the word also appears in James 2:25 – “was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?” Here the better translation is “messengers.” It simply won’t do to announce, “James says the two spies whom Rahab hid were angeloi, literally ‘angels.’” No he doesn’t! It doesn’t mean “angel” in this particular verse. What Strong does do is to show how a word was translated into one English version (KJV, NASB, ESV), but doesn’t give you any help in choosing messenger or angel in any given passage – the Bible student has to study the context of the verse, not the possible meanings of the word. And while Strong shows you where in the New Testament the word is used, it cannot tell you how it is used in any one passage. [2]
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Post by Rudy S on Apr 10, 2021 15:20:24 GMT -5
so whatever the true meaning is it is certain JESUS WAS NEVER A PLURAL ANGEL by no stretch of our imagintion
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 15:22:57 GMT -5
The law was given by angels Plural I know what angels can mean However Jesus was never Plural being And Abraham was never under the law of Moses given on the Mt long after life of Abraham Also Strongs concordance needs examination according to his own assertions Why not begin to understand Mr Strong too it will open your eyes Why do you rely upon man? It Rudy: The law of God existed before Moses because sin was in the world before Moses Genesis 18:20, Genesis 39:9.; and the law was only codified under Moses, and yes the word 'Elohim' is a uni-plural word, and you will find the phrase angel or messenger of YHWH many, many times in the scriptures see here: www.blbclassic.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=angel+of+the+Lord&t=KJVIf you don't want to believe James H. Strong's then go read it in the Gesenius's Lexicon. And what man are you relying on? It certainly isn't Jesus nor the apostle Paul because you have already contradicted them umpteen times today.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 10, 2021 15:50:55 GMT -5
JESUS WAS NEVER A PLURAL BEING = THE LAW OF MOSES CAME 400+ YEARS AFTER ABRAHAM as recorded it came to him from plural set of beings termed angels with all its rituals and dogmas Abraham never lived under become a child with their simplicity Jesus said = that way it is clean and clear to understand JESUS WAS NOT PLURAL Rudy: Jesus said in John 10:30: I/Jesus and my Father/God are one.; and this is uni-plurality, in the same way as man and woman are one, and John wrote in 1 John 5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.Jesus' Holy Spirit wrote the scriptures therefore I do sit at His feet and learn; but I also believe them, and it's very evident that you don't believe them.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 16:00:42 GMT -5
Billy Boy, that is indeed sound doctrine from the scriptures, and we see a uniplural of the Word Jesus and Elohim the Father in John 1:1-14.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 16:10:38 GMT -5
JESUS WAS NEVER A PLURAL BEING = THE LAW OF MOSES CAME 400+ YEARS AFTER ABRAHAM as recorded it came to him from plural set of beings termed angels with all its rituals and dogmas Abraham never lived under become a child with their simplicity Jesus said = that way it is clean and clear to understand JESUS WAS NOT PLURAL And Rudy-Lucy, The apostle Paul says below. And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Galatians 3:17. www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Gal&c=3&t=KJV#17It was Christ who confirmed the law to Moses, and so says the apostle Paul on the matter.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 17:45:42 GMT -5
It was fulfilled and later abandoned at the cross and later declared weak useless to save and imperfect Jesus Changed the law 6 times Why? Because He never delivered it Angels plural did at Sini Jesus was not a plural being 70 ad came later well after Paul wrote his letters Paul was murdered and never witnessed its demise nor infact the Gospel Jesus preached to 12 eye witnesses Well Rudy-Lucy, Jesus did not change the law, He was merely expanding upon its meanings, and ye can stay in denial of Yah Messiah's Deity till hell freezes over, but the fact of scriptures that Yah Jesus Messiah gave Moses the law will remain, and no one can change Paul's words above.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 17:51:38 GMT -5
And Rudy-Lucy,
The apostles Paul did NOT say that the law was "useless" and this is your own hair brain idea, but then ye have to make up every excuse so ye can transgress and excuse yourself of obeying Yah's divine laws, as like the devil's true tare that ye are.
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 10, 2021 18:03:32 GMT -5
Wrong As a classic example The law on revenge An “” eye for an eye”” Quote “” But I say into you”” Equals a totally different Law than the origin one Well Rudy-Lucy no fruity, it's not wrong, and Jesus's words "But I say unto you" does not say nor mean the word "change or changed" either. And Rudy-Lucy no fruity, it's exactly like the devil's tares to argue against the practicing of righteous observance of the divine law of Yah, and ye fit the very picture that the apostle John said of the children of the devil in 1 John 3:4-10.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 11, 2021 9:42:22 GMT -5
No Rudy: It's as the apostle Paul said to the Jews of his day in Acts 13:39: And by him/Christ all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses. And the lying pen of the scribes is referring to the modern scribes as the REMOVAL of God's name of YHWH out of the scriptures 6.823 times and the word 'LORD' substituted in the place of His name.
Also:Both the law and priesthood was transferred or changed to Christ Melchesidec and we of the priesthood of Melchesidec, and for by the law is the knowledge or knowing what sin really is Romans 3:20; and it isn't any wonder why you and the devil wants people to believe that the law is done away, because he is the first to sin or break God's laws, and you continue the disobedience of the devil.
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Post by Little Billy Boy. on Apr 11, 2021 12:53:27 GMT -5
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Post by Eliyahu C. on Apr 11, 2021 16:26:58 GMT -5
Rudy, Billy Boy asked you a question here and your expected to cooperate.
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